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1963 Triumph TR4

Auction Ends: Wed 2nd Apr @ 12:43 pm

  • Registration Number

    TR4

  • Engine Size

    2138cc

  • Engine Number

    CT20295E

  • Chassis Number

    CT199650

  • Gearbox

    Manual

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    No VAT

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    12%, Minimum £150

  • Documents

    V5C; green logbook; MOT October 2025 with no advisories; 34 old MOTs; many invoices; 1980 RAC engineer’s report; photographs; Heritage Certificate; handbook; workshop manual; press cuttings; correspondence etc.

  • Tax and MOT status

    Tax and MOT exempt

Description

A TR4 with a genuine TR4 number plate; in the current ownership for 45 years and yes, the TR4 plate is included and is transferable; a great package that will really get you noticed!

Right, where to begin with this Lot? To respect the vendor’s wishes, we will start with the car because he has owned it for 45 years and loves it like one of the family. However, if you are really only interested in the number plate, you can skip the first few paragraphs and go straight to the ones at the end.

The Car

Our vendor bought this TR4 way back in 1980, the purchase invoice showing that he paid £1,950 after having the car examined by the RAC, the engineer’s 4-page report being overwhelmingly positive. It comes with a large and interesting history file which will take the new owner many happy hours to digest and we can only give a brief summary here.

The Heritage Certificate confirms that this TR4 was built in February 1963 finished in Triumph Racing Green with a black Vynide interior and a black hood. Extras included overdrive, 60-spoke wire wheels, heater, windscreen washer, black tonneau cover and tubed Michelin X tyres.  

Supplied new via Parker & Son of Bedford, it originally had the registration number 379 PJH which was still on the car when our vendor acquired it. It came with a duplicate green logbook listing six previous owners since 1968 and our vendor, a lifelong TR devotee, wrote to all of them. They nearly all replied, sharing fond memories of their time with the car, as recounted in letters on file.

Another letter from the TR4 Registrar revealed that the car had been treated to a body-off restoration in 1975, including a fully rebuilt engine with new pistons, liners, bearings etc, with the odometer being re-set to zero.  

When our vendor acquired the car it was showing 26,470 miles on the clock and he has covered 54,000 miles in it since, the odometer now showing 80,627 miles. He has kept it meticulously maintained, much of the early servicing being carried out by Crown Classic Cars of Twickenham, and from 2010 by Rickmansworth Service Station and from 2017 by Templar Classics of Bucks.

Expenditure of note includes: regular waxoil treatment; Kenlowe fan; cylinder head rebuilt in May 1997; new carpets in 2002; overdrive gearbox rebuilt in 2007 at a cost of £1,700; new pair of H6 carbs in 2022 which cost £1,300 plus a new water pump, the tappet clearances all being checked and adjusted at the same time.

The last visit to Templar was in February this year when it got a new fuel pump; new distributor and dizzie cap; HT leads; spark plugs; sports coil followed by a tune-up and road test.

There are no fewer than 34 old MOTs to chart the gradual accumulation of mileage and, although it is now MOT-exempt, it has a current MOT valid until October 2025 with no advisories recorded – nor has it had any advisories since 2009, always the sign of a good car.  

Always garaged during our vendor’s long ownership, it looks most attractive with a nicely mellowed patina. It has been starting easily and running very nicely as we have moved it around on site, with good 60psi oil pressure.

The Number Plate

The TR4 number plate has an interesting story too, which is covered in some detail in documents and press cuttings on file. It was among a batch of TR numbers issued by the Borough of Southampton commencing in 1925. TR1 was retained by them for use on the Lord Mayor’s car (and is currently on a 2018 Tesla Model S).

Thanks to the Luftwaffe, the early history of TR4 is unknown because the Southampton County Records were largely destroyed in an air raid during World War Two.

The story picks up again in 1957 when it was issued to a Mr T Morley of Notts for the princely sum of £5. He anticipated the production of the TR4 (which came out in 1961) and there is a somewhat incongruous photo in The Standard Triumph Review of his TR3 adorned with the TR4 plate in 1962.

After his death, the registration was transferred to another TR enthusiast, Tony Roach, whose initials matched the plate, but because he considered his TR4 rather tatty, he chose to put it on his brand new Honda 70cc motorbike instead, as he recounts in a letter on file.

Our vendor acquired the plate in 1976 via a series of fortuitous events. There was a lot of commotion at the time about the sale of cherished numbers because Harold Wilson’s Labour government viewed them as a ‘get rich quick’ scheme run by unscrupulous dealers to serve the interests of a vain and wealthy few.

It was widely believed that corrupt civil servants were in on the act, taking bribes to release thousands of unallocated number plates to dodgy traders. The matter was hotly debated in Parliament, MPs being particularly incensed by ‘obscene’ number plates being handed out under the counter to unsavoury characters like porn baron Paul Raymond whose girlfriend, the glamour model Fiona Richmond, famously drove around London in her Primrose Yellow Jaguar E-Type V12 Roadster with the number FU 2 on its long, tumescent bonnet – much to the delight of the tabloids.  

This led to speculation in the press that the cherished transfer trade was going to be banned, or punitively taxed, which sparked panic among the number plate dealers.

Tony Hill, who owned Elite Registrations at the time and was heavily exposed to any market downturn, halved his prices overnight. Our vendor just happened to spot TR4 among his inventory in a Sunday Times ad. He phoned Hill and managed to buy the plate for even less than the price in the ad (he is reluctant to divulge exactly how much he paid but it was a considerable sum nonetheless).

Shortly afterwards Neil Kinnock, who was then Minister of Transport, intervened because he astutely twigged that the DVLA could make some serious money out of selling number plates for themselves – money that was badly needed to top up the government’s fast-dwindling coffers. The rest, as they say, is history.

This assuaged the fears of the number plate dealers and in no time, Tony Hill was back on the phone to our vendor in a desperate attempt to buy the TR4 plate back. Despite being offered a substantial profit, he politely declined and has proudly owned it ever since.  

As an amusing aside, our vendor had spotted TR2 on a car coming towards him in slow-moving traffic on the Edgware Road in the late-Sixties. As the two cars passed, he wound his window down and asked the driver what his plate was worth. "More than you can afford mate" came the reply as he drove away, never to be seen again.

Over the years our vendor has been asked the same question on countless occasions. Many people assume it is just a show plate, while others presume that our vendor must own the Triumph Motor Company. When asked which is worth more, the car or the plate, he always replies that the car is worth more to him because he has been driving TR4s continually since the day the model was launched.

As you would expect, this car/plate combination is very well-known and has made both the car and the owner something of a celebrity over the years. It has been featured in various books and magazines etc, a few of which are in the history file. Although MOT-exempt, it does have a current MOT so transferring the plate should be straighforward.

If this car was being offered with its original 379 PJH plate, we would have been happy to give it an estimate of £18k - £20k. Add in the TR4 plate though, and it takes the whole package into another dimension.

The burning question remains: "What’s it worth mate?" Bid vigorously now, and it could be you who provides the answer…

Consigned by James Dennison – 07970 309907 – james.dennison@brightwells.com

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